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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: HBP.... ARG! (Already!) Reply with quote
Evil or Very Mad I am upset! They are messing up this movie already.

http://www.hpana.com/news.20224.html

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There ARE no scenes with Voldemort in HBP... Let alone with him and Harry together. The only Voldemort you really see in HBP is the teenage Tom Riddle in the flashbacks!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Here's the original story.

Quote:
Film crews want to shoot late outdoor scenes featuring the ghoulish Death-Eaters.


Please pay specific attention to the fact that nowhere in the article does it say that Harry & LV are in the same scenes simultaneously.

In this village is Lacock Abbey. I'm sure I don't need to remind you that the Abbey is used to film interior shots of Hogwarts, including the classrooms. BBC writes:
BBC wrote:
The Abbey's cloisters and side rooms were transformed into the classrooms at Hogwarts School while the location was also used for Harry's discovery of the Mirror of Erised.


Here's a photo gallery of familiar "Hogwarts spots" at the Abbey.

HERE you can see some more photos of the Abbey, and also the surrounding village of Lacock. Just looking at the photos you can see how the village is perfect for Hogsmead, or Diagon alley. Taking the tour, you would also see Privet Drive.

I really can't believe I just put that much research into this, (the past hour or so) but basically here's the thing:

The first 2 movies were shot in Lacock, then, in movie #3 the look of the movies changed -- most notably the grounds of Hogwarts. Perhaps the filmmakers liked the look of that Hogwarts better. Perhaps Hogwarts really does change from time to time, and the needed the "old" Hogwarts for flashback scenes.

Don't forget that this movie marks the beginning of the horcrux adventures, including Harry & Dumby going into the Pensieve to witness memories of a younger LV -- including Harry seeing LV before he was completely physically "transformed" into the snake-like creature we know and love. He will be younger, but not so young as little Tommy Riddle from the diary -- thus played by the actor that plays him fully transformed.

Believe me, you wouldn't have it any other way. If anyone else played him, you would be coming onto this site saying how stupid it was for another actor to play him, and "why didn't they just use Ralph Fiennes?

Also, remember that making a movie is a business. If they can shoot scenes from the next movie while shooting this one, money will be saved, and they won't have to come back in 2 years to transform the entire town again. This tends to be a VERY common practice when shooting a series of films.

Don't worry, I'm sure they're not adding stuff that doesn't belong. (At least not TOO much anyway.) Either way, it's still WAAAAAY to early to start complaiing about speculations.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not that obsessed a fan, eh Jeff? Wink I appreciate the effort Wink

I don't think they are filming for DH yet... even partially... My point is that Fiennes has no part in HBP. There is not supposed to be a Voldemort at all (unless it is in said flashbacks...) They used clips from the first few movies in OotP and to be honest, I hated those parts. I felt gyped by them doing that. All that money and time spent on filming, and they use old footage we've already seen?

As I said, the flashbacks would be of teenage Tom... Not Voldemort. And even if they did the scene with Dumbledore, they would have included Gambon in that article too.

To be honest with you, I don't really care either way about Ralph Fiennes being Voldemort... He does have a certain flair for playing the villain, that is for sure. It wouldn't be the same as if they changed Harry, Ron or Hermione... So much CGI is needed to create him, it wouldn't really matter. For the whole story to be about him, we sure don't know much more about him than the fact he is one bad dude.

You have more faith in WB than I do.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
shammy wrote:
As I said, the flashbacks would be of teenage Tom... Not Voldemort. And even if they did the scene with Dumbledore, they would have included Gambon in that article too.


Was there a section that said they were shooting scenes with ONLY Fienes & Radcliff? My point is that everyone is speculating based of the was an article was worded. An article that was full of speculation based on the wording of another article.

A point you must concede:

Riddle at age 13 will look very different that riddle at age 19, and yet both are teenagers. There will be a point that LV will no longer look like the actor that played "Diary Riddle" but still not like "present day" snakey Voldy. My guess is that he will look almost exactly like present day Ralph Fiennes with makeup work to make him look a little younger. Just a though -- we'll have to see how close I am when the movie finally does come out.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
To me, that article means it was a scene with the two of them... I guess it can be taken both ways. The only other idea I had, maybe they are using Ralph Fiennes as Riddle Sr... That could easily be a flashback scene.

Hmmm.

IMO, diary Tom would be best to play an 18 year old Tom... They could easily make him look more sinister after having created a horcrux or two... I don't know if he is coming back though. Much easier task than making Ralph Fiennes look 1/2 his age. They will need an 11 y/o Tom as well for the part with Dumbledore telling him everything in the orphanage. They could tone Ralph down a bit for the Dumbledore job interview-make him look younger and you wouldn't have to have four Voldemorts in one movie. That would be a bit confusing to people who don't read the book, since they would not understand the transformation from teenage Tom to Voldemort.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Here we go again... Reply with quote
SO...

What is up with the no Fleur business in HBP???
I realize her part would have been small, but why would they do this?
The whole Bill/Fleur issue (and the lightnig struck tower scene...) will be SOOOO... different.

Chop! Chop! Chop!
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We need a smiley with a chainsaw...
(or at least a machete...)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saw it. Loved it.

Well Bob, you finally got your wish. Mike Gambon isn't Dumdy anymore....

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I liked it too, Gambon stepped it up a bit in this one. I dont like some of the changes they made, but what are you gonna do? I think they left a lot out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
They always leave a lot out, otherwise the movie would be 12 hours long. I have to say that I'm happy so far having not had to read page after page on this site about how the movie left this out or changed that, or that the book was better. Very Happy It means either that I'm the only person who still checks this site, or that we're actually growing up. LOL If the movie didn't vary from the book at all, there would be no point in ever buying the book. Of course the book was better - the book is ALWAYS better. LOL But this movie was pretty cool.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it could be done RIGHT in under 3 hours... Probably would be a perfect job for me. Smile If they spent less time making stuff up, they would have time for the huge gaps they leave. I can easily think of 10-15 mins they could have shaved off the final product because of what they left out; it just did not fit and serves little purpose... just filler. They are too concerned with blowing stuff up and breaking glass because it looks cool. I noticed, people who only watch the movies did not like how little action was in HBP (too slow, goes nowhere) and people who have read the books did not like how fast it went, but as a general concensus they felt the tone and content of the movie stayed very close to the book.
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